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Created by: gofish

6/25 @ 1:04pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Just have to say I encounter a member who was slagging off a performer on the site for being as he said str8. Think it is time for many viewers to realize that some performers are on the site for personal reason and need to be shown some respect.
Flirt should be seen as a place to have a bit of fun and enjoy the company of any model of your chosing and not a place to cause negative drama in a chat room.
Just my opinion and won't name the performer merely because he really comes across as a nice guy.
Would be interested if anyonther member has encounters viewers who tend to slag off models and if you come to the defense of the model/performer.
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Created by: daniga22

6/28 @ 2:12pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Yes, some users can be very rude at times. It is possible the model said something rude to them first. But they have to understand that the model is handling several people at once while putting himself out in public for the whole world to see. The user could just leave.

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Created by: gloababatrana

6/28 @ 5:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Shouldn't Flirt also be a place to not cause "negative drama" in the forums?

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Created by: gofish

6/29 @ 2:15am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Shouldn't Flirt also be a place to not cause "negative drama" in the forums?

gloababatrana the negative drama is sometimes found in the chatroom when one see a viewer putting down a performer in a very negative way which is far more than mere flirt teasing. Fair is fair in a private but in open chat there has to be a limit as to how far a viewer should go.

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Created by: hornysucker1

6/29 @ 9:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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gloababatrana the negative drama is sometimes found in the chatroom when one see a viewer putting down a performer in a very negative way which is far more than mere flirt teasing. Fair is fair in a private but in open chat there has to be a limit as to how far a viewer should go.

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Why am I not surprised that you utterly missed (or chose to ignore) his point?

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Created by: hornysucker1

6/29 @ 9:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Why am I not surprised that you utterly missed (or chose to ignore) his point?

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Created by: jaygatsby1925

7/2 @ 1:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Shouldn't Flirt also be a place to not cause "negative drama" in the forums?

But that's the best part of the forums
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Created by: beachboy31

7/5 @ 6:44am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I stick up for models cause the users came in nasty , some under the influence and most boys too polite

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Created by: erost

8/24 @ 10:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: lucas@home

8/25 @ 1:00pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Hate to break it to you, but the vast majority of webcam models on this site are actually straight and the reason is simple, they’re here to make money by selling a fantasy, that’s part of the job, this isn’t new and many of them are incredibly skilled at creating intimate, loving connections with other men, regardless of their personal orientation.

I’ve had sessions with gay models that were boring, and others with straight models that felt deeply engaging, sexual orientation doesn’t guarantee a good or bad experience. What really matters is the model’s personality, emotional intelligence, and approach to the performance

Well I don't know about you but I'm sure not going to spend money and pay F4F to look for "deeply engaging, intimate loving connections with other men" as you put it, I hope I can get that in the real world with real people not fantasy people--if I'm coming to this site for those kind of connections I need to really look at that. I come to this site for hot steamy sex with other men and frankly to get off and hate to break it to you but the vast majority of models are here for that reason too--its a job to them and they're trying to make money--I've had great experiences with many models and we hook up on recurring basis but it is based on sex, period, they're not looking for intimate loving connections they're sex workers for crying out loud. The one thing that I can hope for and believe in on this site is that the model has a good time sexually just like I do and I have found that with many models, yes they may be faking it but after getting to know them I don't think so and they always are gay and say they are gay. If you get off on having a sex encounter with a straight guy go for it man I personally just could not get excited if I knew going into the session he was by definition faking it completely--he knows it, I know it, and I come away feeling used especially after paying for it. Jesus, why do people always comment in these forums about "intimate loving connections" on this site, they just don't exist and never will--this is a pay for sex site employing sex workers, its all fantasy like you say. Nothing wrong with that . The straight and so called bi-"curious" guys (bi-curious--BS, they're straight) ought to admit they will perform for gay guys on the site but they're just not into it really and if you want to pay for that go ahead, just know going in both parties aren't really into it--otherwise what they are doing is called queerbaiting which is nothing more than exploitation, and don't try to gaslight me that it isn't just because some straight dude seems to have a nice "personality or emotional intelligence," its exploitation.

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Created by: daniga22

8/25 @ 6:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: lucas@home

8/25 @ 8:14pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I refrain from calling a model a sex worker. Porn model for sure. But sex worker is a whole different thing. However, within the last few months, two of the models I took a liking to, I was spending time in their rooms chatting using whisper. Another user entered with a badge showing "1" and starting soliciting the model. The user did not know I was there because I was whispering but I saw all of his texts because he was not whispering. The user mentioned dates, number of days, city, payment per day, travel arrangements, etc. for the model to give him company when he vacations. The model was open to it and was asking for all details. That is how I got to see the details. Happened in the rooms of two models within days of each other. One of the models whispered and the other model did not even bother to whisper to his user. It was all out in the open. One of the users wanted company for himself and the other user wanted the model's company for a group of people (him and his friends). I guess not all models are just porn models.

Why o why is "sex worker a whole different thing" why are you making a judgment on being a sex worker, hey they work in the sex industry, so who cares? except people who want to throw out their negative judgements about sex workers (maybe like you?) Its a job OK you may not want to do it but don't cast silly dispersions on people who do--you do what you have to do and everyone else can keep their silly provincial opinions to themselves thank you. Sex worker, porn model--WTF-- the same thing to me. Now soliciting these guys on line in front of everyone that's kind of dicey but frankly the model, porn model, sex worker whatever you want to call them should have shut that down immediately but that's another discussion.

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Created by: daniga22

8/25 @ 9:43pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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@lucas
Judgment and silly provincial opinions? You mean like calling the models exploiters and deceptive queerbaiters?

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Created by: lucas@home

8/25 @ 11:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Judgment and silly provincial opinions? You mean like calling the models exploiters and deceptive queerbaiters?

"calling the models"? I've said in numerous posts that I have met many great models on this site and have returned to them frequently and I like them. I did not say all the models but yea there are a slew of exploiters and deceptive ones out there, and that's not a judgement or opinion it's just a fact, there's bad eggs in every basket so don't get all defensive. Why don't you explain to us what your problem with the term sex worker is why is it a "whole different thing" then I guess the more benign or socially acceptable term porn model?? That's what I thought was judgmental, maybe just maybe some of us posting here actually worked in the industry and did not think it was a "whole different thing" and did not appreciate when people talked about our work that way, ya think??

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Created by: daniga22

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Created by: lucas@home

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@lucas
Calling someone exploitative and deceptive is a character judgment of that person.
Maybe, just maybe, some of us who are posting here are straight and worked as models entertaining gay clients sincerely for the money they got paid and don't appreciate your character judgment of them that they are exploitative and deceptive.

you still haven't answered the question now especially more pertinent since you cop to having been a sex worker what's the problem with that term, why the hell is that a whole different thing than being a porn model and YES YES if you are exploitive and deceptive I am in fact judging your character why wouldn't any reasonable person judge your character if you have those qualities, but again I said some not all again good and bad eggs in every basket, did I call you that Daniga did I call one of your friends that Daniga, for Christs sake ! If you read the damn post that had nothing to do with the comment, it was asking what you meant by saying a sex worker was a "whole different thing" than being a porn model. OK, get it?

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Created by: daniga22

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Created by: lucas@home

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@lucas
I don't have to answer anything to you. I only had to point out your hypocrisy. I have pointed it out successfully.

By the way, porn model and sex worker are indeed two different things. If saying that offends you, the problem is with you and not me.

hey man you're the one who made the comment about a sex worker as being a "whole different thing" than a porn model I only wanted to know what you meant by that since any reasonable person would think you were implying there was something wrong with it since you "refrain from calling a model a sex worker"and I think its perfectly fine if that's your choice and no, it didn't offend me, it struck me as being judgmental and provincial toward sex workers as I said (and yes I was and will judge some, not all models on this site who are exploitive and deceptive, I said some not all but that had nothing at all to do with the original response to your post you just got real defensive and threw that in) and now when pressed you say you don't have to answer so fine don't answer but when these kinds of comments show up in this forum usually negative emotionally laden comments that the author does not explain or justify or refuses to give an answer to when questioned about some of us who still try to think critically will ask what the hell are you talking about? and I don't know what hypocrisy you're talking about (maybe you could answer that question but why do I doubt you will) but I got a news flash for you you didn't point anything out successfully let alone "my hypocrisy" Jeez, wow,

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Created by: erost

Today @ 8:59am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well I don't know about you but I'm sure not going to spend money and pay F4F to look for "deeply engaging, intimate loving connections with other men" as you put it, I hope I can get that in the real world with real people not fantasy people--if I'm coming to this site for those kind of connections I need to really look at that. I come to this site for hot steamy sex with other men and frankly to get off and hate to break it to you but the vast majority of models are here for that reason too--its a job to them and they're trying to make money--I've had great experiences with many models and we hook up on recurring basis but it is based on sex, period, they're not looking for intimate loving connections they're sex workers for crying out loud. The one thing that I can hope for and believe in on this site is that the model has a good time sexually just like I do and I have found that with many models, yes they may be faking it but after getting to know them I don't think so and they always are gay and say they are gay. If you get off on having a sex encounter with a straight guy go for it man I personally just could not get excited if I knew going into the session he was by definition faking it completely--he knows it, I know it, and I come away feeling used especially after paying for it. Jesus, why do people always comment in these forums about "intimate loving connections" on this site, they just don't exist and never will--this is a pay for sex site employing sex workers, its all fantasy like you say. Nothing wrong with that . The straight and so called bi-"curious" guys (bi-curious--BS, they're straight) ought to admit they will perform for gay guys on the site but they're just not into it really and if you want to pay for that go ahead, just know going in both parties aren't really into it--otherwise what they are doing is called queerbaiting which is nothing more than exploitation, and don't try to gaslight me that it isn't just because some straight dude seems to have a nice "personality or emotional intelligence," its exploitation.

I hear where you’re coming from and yes, of course this is a fantasy space and sex work is work. But I think we might be talking about two different kinds of experiences people seek on these platforms.

For me, I’m not confusing fantasy with reality. I’m fully aware it’s a job for the models. That said, the connection, even if it’s part of the performance, can still feel meaningful, engaging, and tailored. I don’t expect models to fall in love with me or be gay to do a good job. What I value is authenticity in presence, not in orientation. Some models straight, bi, or gay are just better at creating an experience that feels mutual and respectful, not transactional. That doesn’t mean I expect them to be into me personally, it means they know how to hold space with skill and emotional intelligence, and that enhances the experience.

If you’re just looking for a quick release, totally valid. But for others, that blend of eroticism and connection even if it’s brief and bounded is what makes the experience satisfying. Doesn’t mean we’re delusional, it just means we’re looking for something a little more nuanced, that's all.

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